00:00:00: Hi Naomi, it's great to meet you here in Cannes.
00:00:02: How has the festival been going for you?
00:00:04: Oh very nice!
00:00:04: The weather is nice.
00:00:06: I discovered a film from my elastica yesterday because i haven't watched it before and was so exciting and surprised in an amazing way.
00:00:15: cause its cinema cinema plus plus plus.
00:00:18: And I love Cannes and think that this was the best way to show the movie of Cannes at midnight screening.
00:00:24: It's fantastic.
00:00:25: I'm happy to see Marion.
00:00:27: we're happy too see Bertrand Because I loved.
00:00:29: There are a lot and I can read my daughter Valentina, like my character.
00:00:35: I think i'm putting them up here.
00:00:37: yesterday as you already mentioned was the big premiere.
00:00:40: how does it feel for you to have this story which is so wild?
00:00:44: And there's so many stars by Bertrand Mantico just presented to an audience that's as cinephile As the current audiences now want to be.
00:00:51: It's movie talks about cinema but not only Like.
00:00:54: there is amazing friendship between two women and she loved me a lot.
00:01:00: Talking about the cinema that is so important on earth, you know?
00:01:04: Without art there's no Earth.
00:01:06: And at one point this Italian cinema in its best moments before the eighties was just fantastic.
00:01:14: Then with TV and all of these it declined.
00:01:17: It's also about the fragility of arts.
00:01:20: We have to care about it as we've had to care for humans.
00:01:23: We're having to care our lives.
00:01:26: The fact that we decline.
00:01:46: You already mentioned a strong female friendship at its core.
00:01:49: The main character is played by Marion Cotillard, how was working together with her and How did you develop that theme of Female Friendship?
00:01:57: already friends because we met in Lee a movie by Elaine Kras with Kate Quinslet and it was couple of years ago.
00:02:04: And we spent time together, shelling very strong friendship at that time.
00:02:11: This, this movie came and Berthold chose me to play with Mario.
00:02:16: And I was so blessed and happy because... ...I admire her so much but also i love- I love her a lot you know?
00:02:22: A bit like Valentina with Eddie.
00:02:24: So it's good!
00:02:25: I would not have to pay that much Because That is the way she feels for her Like they admire her and then I won't even It just loved being around here.
00:02:32: It wasn´t that difficult to build Your
00:02:34: character also very tough and sometimes aggressive protectively of your friend.
00:02:39: Were there few weird or funny occurrences on the set that you like to share when shooting all those crazy scenes?
00:02:45: To bite a man, uh...to protect Eddie.
00:02:49: I have two!
00:02:51: with my bag to hit the journalist, give her a loan because she feels bad.
00:02:58: It was so funny!
00:03:00: I love my character because she is opposite of Eddie who's really in the retenue and my character is really expressive and protective.
00:03:09: Why are friends like that around me?
00:03:11: And i used think about her when playing my character Because she's like that and laughs alot
00:03:20: working together with Bertrand Mandicou, the director.
00:03:23: At the beginning I was scared because it's always so stupid but about his look he has a bit like costume that we're not used to in life.
00:03:34: He is so sweet, so calm and patient The opposite of his looks.
00:03:39: And thats what i love This.
00:03:40: contrasts.
00:03:41: There are a lot of contrasts.
00:03:44: there is dialogue about gender sometimes there is a dialog between past & future Like, there is no borders and he's like that.
00:03:52: For him everything is trinity between people And art in-between People.
00:03:58: I really want to work with it
00:03:59: again.
00:03:59: Queer is an important theme of the film.
00:04:01: It's also nominated for the queer poem.
00:04:03: What's your personal connection To queer cinema?
00:04:06: How do you see The place Of queer cinema In Cannes which Is a more conservative Place?
00:04:10: Queer Cinema for me... ...is very important.
00:04:14: Weapon It's a weapon for understanding Love and freedom.
00:04:19: Still, there is not enough place for those stories.
00:04:22: Not enough and they have so many to teach us To show us but the fact that when it's love everything should be just easy.
00:04:31: I want to fight for every cinema.
00:04:32: The film was
00:04:33: set in the eighties which were still a very conservative period And also quite sexist In many ways Which has also reflected in the films story.
00:04:42: How do you look back on this period?
00:04:48: Yeah, sexism was there and it's still always here in a way.
00:04:54: I hope we will get rid of it one day, but that's why i love to do a movie like That.
00:04:58: He is the opposite of sexist and he start the movie with man with big return on his head With blood.
00:05:05: this guy is killed by eddie And he saying so many horrible things about woman.
00:05:11: This also a message that Aftron wants to say Like him was to kill The sexiest.
00:05:18: machi smoois dangerous For women in for art.
00:05:21: At time they were all always showing women in the same way and seeing plastic aesthetic.
00:05:29: In his movie, all of them are so multidimensional And many more than just an image sexy and glamorous Just a real life for woman or what they are.
00:05:39: They're cooperated by fantastic actresses like Yvonne La Muti.
00:05:42: You have Iberova?
00:05:43: How was working with all those stars?
00:05:46: It's amazing because we were all excited to play Because really playing kids All very strong characters very different and weird.
00:05:55: And we're not used to that so much women in movies, We were not allowed to play that much and be vulgar and be trivial and bizarre...
00:06:04: The main character by Marianne Cotillard is punished by the industry for getting older even though she's still young!
00:06:11: Do you experience ageism?
00:06:14: How do you react it ?
00:06:16: Of course I think the woman experienced this maybe less because there was more interest role for women after forty, you know?
00:06:25: But not as much as men.
00:06:27: So we still have to fight in a way and there is a lot of woman who are scared I understand of aging.
00:06:34: so does lots of surgery.
00:06:36: It's the choice.
00:06:37: but sometimes it´s not only your choice because its also fear that society puts you into backgrounds.
00:06:43: And thats sad.
00:06:44: when it isn't a choise but its a choice Its marvelous!
00:06:47: When theres this society that convinces you do it anyway.
00:06:51: So you still in movies and still, you know In the lights since the
00:06:54: story is mainly also a homage to classic Italian cinema And you have acted in French an Italian films and in co-productions.
00:07:02: Do we ever preferance?
00:07:03: I love to work in different languages.
00:07:05: Italian I love because I'm in love with Italy and this language i'd like To work in France.
00:07:10: But I would love all sorts of I don't know working job in Japanese or You know my eyes just I loved too.
00:07:16: I love two meet different cultures and way to work and wait see the society with our different traditions, culture and melody.
00:07:26: The story is also immensely funny.
00:07:28: it has a very wild and weird sense of humor.
00:07:32: how did you connect to that funny side?
00:07:33: And would like go more into comedies.
00:07:35: yeah I love comedy!
00:07:36: i'd love do more really...I find freedom in comedy giving me so much light and joy in my life.
00:07:49: very hard things, sometime humor helps a lot.
00:07:52: The film
00:07:53: is set in the eighties and we already mentioned that this was a transformative era for cinema when video film came out ,when TV became more common.
00:08:02: Today's another form of transformation happening.
00:08:05: We have streaming even at festivals .We have series, we have immersive productions.
00:08:09: How do you see these changes to industry?
00:08:11: Well
00:08:12: there are good things.
00:08:14: You can watch more easily More open people, it's easier to make it also.
00:08:21: To express ourselves because a lot of people were completely erased from society.
00:08:27: they can have space to do what they want to say but at the same time it's capitalism and business is always you know sometimes taking too much.
00:08:36: there's power in its dangers for art and freedom... Freedom of expression ideas.
00:08:44: this is scary.
00:08:45: sometime The
00:08:46: film goes into surrealism.
00:08:48: How did you connect to this theme of surreal aspects?
00:08:52: and what was the widest thing that happened on set?
00:09:08: This ice cream, ten times speaking about shit.
00:09:21: It was like what the fuck is this?
00:09:23: And it's just incredible.
00:09:24: every day with my own we're like What is
00:09:26: this?!
00:09:27: It's just unbelievable but in a good way.
00:09:29: you don't just fantastic.
00:09:31: We were like child in the face of games.
00:09:33: Looking
00:09:33: back at your career those last years You did a lot of independent films But also big budget productions.
00:09:39: Do you have a preference
00:09:40: for me?
00:09:41: Depends on the crew.
00:09:42: Sometimes when I pick project and find that you think more freedom Yes, because the people are very scared about money and that it costs a lot.
00:09:52: So you have to be careful with everything.
00:09:54: sometimes no It's amazing in The Crew is just so nice And You don't feel like its big business movie.
00:10:02: there's arcs also and sometimes small movies with slow budgets.
00:10:07: you can have a director that push everyone too far not nicely because he knows his stress doesn't have the lots of budget.
00:10:14: it could be terrible but at the same time like this movie, It Can Be Amazing!
00:10:19: Because There Is No Money But There is A Lot Of Creativity And Careness And Love And It'S Fantastic.
00:10:24: What I Prefer Is The People.
00:10:26: What Does
00:10:26: A Film Character Need To Interest
00:10:29: You?
00:10:29: I Think He Needs to Surprise Me to make me moving or laugh, give me emotions drive me somewhere else.
00:10:38: Do you have any project at the moment that your working on and are allowed talk about?
00:10:42: I just finished Les Miserables who is out in October.
00:10:46: i just finish a movie of De Pléchant The Thing That Hurts!
00:10:49: Im writing my next movie with Pertis Moralda.
00:10:53: thats it.
00:10:54: Thats
00:10:54: alot and we will be looking up for.
00:10:55: thankyou very much.